Why No Women Pastors?

Article:
http://pastureofchrist.blogspot.com.au/2016/01/why-no-women-pastors.html

Food for thought:
With arguments like these, we must look at what definitions we have for the word ‘pastor’ and realise that the New Testament also mentions ‘bishop’. If a bishop was the same as a pastor would that not mean they should have been given the same translation?
Do pastors necessarily have to be ‘ordained’ ministers? Is pastoral care for lower levels of church leadership also? Can a women give the occasional sermon if she is still under authority of the head pastor?

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5 thoughts on “Why No Women Pastors?

  1. I’m just curious as to whether or not the rule still applies as written. After all, some of them are quite unfair for women who can’t have children – I guess that means they won’t really be saved. And there is a verse that says women pray and prophesy as well as mentions of women praying and prophesying.

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      1. All the women rules. Ought women to wear head coverings? Ought women to remain silent? Are women to be forbidden from teaching men? Are women forbidden to be pastors? If so, why was Junia an apostle and Phoebe a deacon? Are these rules true because it’s set in 1st century Judea? Are they still true in 21st century America, or everywhere else?

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      2. 11 A woman[a] should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man;[b] she must be quiet. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. 15 But women[c] will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety. – 1 Timothy 2:11-15

        This is one of the rules I was referring to.

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  2. I’ve talked to a few people done theology at university and the understanding of 1 Cor 11 is that there were quite a number of women in the area who were prostitutes, and to signify this they shaved their heads. Except now that they’re Christians, they’re no longer living that lifestyle so that’s why Paul encourages to keep “the tradition” of hiding their head so that others are not distracted by their past or think they are prostitute.
    At the end of this topic you see Paul say “But if anyone is inclined to be contentious, we have no such custom, nor do the churches of God.”

    In 1 Timothy 2, Paul was probably having a problem with the women there themselves. Verse 11-15 can seem to be a bit “harsh” but in verse 10 Paul shows that he wants women to live a godly life. And at the beginning of the chapter, he is encouraging everyone to live quietly. Perhaps there were women were trying to gain dominance over men and forgot that they are to be submissive. And yes, for women submission in marriage is truth “Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit in everything to their husbands.” (Eph 5:24).
    Why Paul is telling these particular women to keep silent, I don’t know. Maybe they were just too rebellious and needed disclipine? Back to 1 Cor 11, in verse 5 Paul mentions that women do pray and can prohpesy, so clearly it is not a universal rule for all women always to be followed, it was probably only just a temporary rule until these women calmed down.

    The debate about women teaching “over” men is interesting. To my understanding a “bishop” (1 Tim 3) is different to a “pastor” (Eph 4:11). These days a lot of people automatically associate the word pastor for the head of a congregation/s however, it seems that this is what a bishop is. A pastor is just someone who leads and helps nurture Christ’s flock. This doesn’t HAVE to be the head of the congregation/bishop. 1 Tim 2 mentions that their bishops are men, not given any mention to women bishops. Even though Pauls need to explain what a Bishop must be probably because of men having multiple wives and not treating the congregation right, we can learn from his example of “For if a man does not know how to rule his own house, how will he take care of the church of God?” (1 Tim 3:5)
    He’s given us a clear indication that a church family must be run similar to a family. And was we know from the previous chapter, men are in authority as husbands and fathers, so therefore men are to be the heads of congregations. Men are bishops… But can women be pastors?

    From what I’ve read and talked about with others, there doesn’t seem to be much indication what genders are appropriate for apostles(missionaries), prophets, evangelists, pastors and teachers. We do know women can be teachers, and we know that they can be prophets. And in Judges, Deborah was a prophet, judge and ALSO a counsellor for many men. Also in Romans (16:1-2) Paul mentions that he is sending a friend Pheobe (a woman) to help them. “I commend to you our sister Phoebe, a servant of the church at Cenchreae, that you may welcome her in the Lord in a way worthy of the saints, and help her in whatever she may need from you, for she has been a patron of many and of myself as well.”
    Paul has noted that to some degree she has authority over them if she needs something. Maybe this is just about simple hospitality, but he goes on and mentions various other women after this, but not with the same introduction. So that fact that he talks so highly of her and mentions her first, can give us an indication that she is of high leadership, maybe what some might call a deaconess, or she could be a pastor or apostle or teacher (to men and women).

    So then, if these women existed and were encouraged and blessed for their work, then why ridiculue women in leadership now?

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